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Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:27:07 -
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In my opinion, what the forumusers means, i dont think reflects the overall opinion of EVE players. Usually the negative voices kills the positive voices pretty fast, if they cant manage to kill the positive voices, they just get the thread locked :D
It would be much more interesting to see what the players means With using a ingame voting for their opinion about WiS.... but again, i dont think that ever will happen anyways.
WiS... its like Atlantis, it died many ages ago... |
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Posted - 2015.02.22 23:59:29 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:[quote=Carrie-Anne Moss] It's not about the money, Lebowski. It's about the product. And judging by the longevity of this game, the product is just fine. Mr Epeen 
Actually, if the game was "just fine", i dont think there would be so much questions about changes or other forms of additions to the game.
In my opinion, i belive EVE would attract more players With WiS, which could give players a break from "just" flying in Space... or other additions that would expand the experience of EVE. |
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Posted - 2015.02.24 22:31:51 -
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So after 309 replies about this WiS, it seems the lack agreement never seems to suprice the forum.
And its not the first time this has been discussed, so its in my view, a doublestandard here. Usually redundant post are closed, why hasnt this been closed?
2nd... when a post gets so much replies and there are a endless rant back and fourth, With a no distant future of some agreement, CCP should really come With a statement to shut you People up. |
Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.02.24 23:33:34 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:So after 309 replies about this WiS, it seems the lack agreement never seems to suprice the forum.
And its not the first time this has been discussed, so its in my view, a doublestandard here. Usually redundant post are closed, why hasnt this been closed?
2nd... when a post gets so much replies and there are a endless rant back and fourth, With a no distant future of some agreement, CCP should really come With a statement to shut you People up. A statement? CCP can state what they want. We also can state what we want... And my guess is that we are not alone outside of CCP, but within CCP there are also a few people who think like us. Of course their opinion may have a crapton less doom and gloom than mine, and less wishful thinking than Erica's, but even after 4 years EVE still haves some nice avatars with lots of potential. They're real and WoD proved that they were functional. CCP is on the wrong road, but they still can take another one. If they dare to.
Well it would be interesting to actually see CCP comee With a comment about this issue or others With much attention.
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Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.02.25 01:14:47 -
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In my opinion, or onion, I think EVE would been much more "healthier" With WiS. These days, aint many that really looking forward to the "NeXT big release"... Yeah some few, like some parts of the releases, but i fear that the majority of players couldnt care less. And the forum dont reflekt the hole playerbase of EVE. If all players had used the Forum, i belive there would be much more pro's than con's
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Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.02.25 12:21:12 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Steppa Musana wrote:
I also think the antiWiS attitiude of CCP is a knee jerk reaction to players crying about it.
That, or the fact that it very nearly killed their company.
The economy was fine in CCP when WiS got canceled in 2011, they wanted to develop World of Darkness and Dust 514. 2 years later the CCP economy took a beating, and they canceled the big developments. Alos there was rumours that CCP was cleaning up their expences to discuss a merge, or sale, to Sony.
So if they HAD implemented WiS, but stopped the "microtransactions" and the other stuff which was the reason to the massive complaints, EVE would been more healthy and attracted more players.
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Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.02.25 16:50:03 -
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OKAY.....
-----> Make an online survey, just YES or No for WiS. (Online Surveys can easly be made With no cost)
------> Put link to the survey in local cghat, ally chat, get others to distribuate the link... send to corps, alliances.
Get others than forumusers to give their opinion.
Put result for the vote in the forum. |
Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.02.25 17:08:07 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:OKAY.....
-----> Make an online survey, just YES or No for WiS. (Online Surveys can easly be made With no cost)
------> Put link to the survey in local cghat, ally chat, get others to distribuate the link... send to corps, alliances.
Get others than forumusers to give their opinion.
Put result for the vote in the forum. You didn't finish your post. The last sentnece should have been: "Then whatever the vote result is, DO THE OPPOSITE" Quote:Back in 2009, Walmart surveyed its customers and asked GÇ£Would you like Walmart to be less cluttered?GÇ¥ They said yes. So Walmart cleared out space and reduced inventory and customer satisfaction shot up. However, same-store sales plummeted, by Phil TerryGÇÖs estimate, by $1.85 billion, and now Walmart has fired the team that put the idea into place and is spending hundreds of millions to undo what they spent hundreds of millions doing. People don't know what they want, asking them it thusly stupid.
Well, the situsation here is kinda the opposite, players want more clutter, ergo players are smarter and not stupid as you say they are... not Nice of you to label People as stupid ;) |
Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.02.26 11:57:37 -
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Ma'Baker McCandless wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:OKAY.....
-----> Make an online survey, just YES or No for WiS. (Online Surveys can easily be made With no cost)
------> Put link to the survey in local chat, ally chat, get others to distribute the link... send to corps, alliances.
Get others than forum users to give their opinion.
Put result for the vote in the forum. And.. what? What do you expect this utter waste of time to accomplish?
This will give a more Complete Picture of what the users of EVE think about it, and not the the few forum fanatics opinion. what you think cant be counted as what all EVE players thinks. To me, it appears that some forumusers belive that what they mean, reflexts ALL players in EVE.
Ergo would a survey make much better argument than 20 forumusers bickering page up and page Down, each one more stubborn than the other. |
Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:47:25 -
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Ma'Baker McCandless wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
This will give a more Complete Picture of what the users of EVE think about it, and not the the few forum fanatics opinion. what you think cant be counted as what all EVE players thinks. To me, it appears that some forumusers belive that what they mean, reflexts ALL players in EVE.
Ergo would a survey make much better argument than 20 forumusers bickering page up and page Down, each one more stubborn than the other.
And what makes you think CCP would care any more about it in that form than any other so far for the last 3 years?
i can easily see why CCP dont care about this thread, or others for that matter, when some forumusers clogging up the post With bickering, ranting and no productive answers. (and its for me a big mysterium that the ISD's hasnt locked this post many many pages unless there is something going on in the shadows)
With a vote from the majority of the active playerbase of EVE, they cant just ignore it, but they can ofcourse reject a proposal for "change". But at some point, if they keep rejecing and ignoring their playerbase voices, they will at some point end up in trouble.... (the jita incident) |
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Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.02.26 18:55:54 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Quote:Clones are manufactured using biomass. Modern methods allow pretty much any kind of biomass to be used. The best clones are constructed from human cadavers, but anything from animal carcasses to organic soups can be used. Wait, WHAT? Quote:Clone composition:
Certified human cadavers (Grade A+) [37%]
Uncertified human cadavers (Grade A) [32%]
Animal carcasses (Grade B) [23%]
Organic materials (Grade C) [8%]  'Thankyou, benny' for selflessly linking lore articles which were clearly written by a giggling dev huffing some sort of narcotic. Goatman NotMyFault wrote:i can easily see why CCP dont care about this thread, or others for that matter, when some forumusers clogging up the post With bickering, ranting and no productive answers. That's not true. Devs pop up on the forums all the time to point and laugh at the playerbase. They're our elite trolls. You're not exactly helping promote a serious and constructive discussion with that name btw. I think this thread should be moved to F&I and be stickied along with the AFK cloaking and SP thread. Imagine what it'll look like in a year or two if it's left to run...
To make my char name a point of discussion is just childish.
And i agree it should be moved to F&I even tho the OP just asked what happend to WiS, the thread has evolved into more a F&I post yes. |
Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.02.27 09:59:20 -
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Ma'Baker McCandless wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
With a vote from the majority of the active playerbase of EVE, they cant just ignore it, but they can ofcourse reject a proposal for "change". But at some point, if they keep rejecing and ignoring their playerbase voices, they will at some point end up in trouble.... (the jita incident)
Yes they can. They can do as they wish. When you say the "Jita Incident", I assume you mean the dropping of subs, and not the nonsense that happened in Jita. As far as I remember that was about the jeans memo, not about WiS You also assume the vote would go your way.
Im well aware of that they can do what they want, but igoring the players the players too lobg, may have a bad effect in the long run.
I dont really care how the vote goes, my point of view is more objective which i want to see a more Complete Picture of what the playerbase desires and not what the forumusers belives is the best for the playerbase to desire
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Goatman NotMyFault
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:30:43 -
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i have mentioned it before, but ill repeat myself abit.... im really supriced that this post hasnt been closed... its clearly redundant, too much offtopic and littered With trolls.... something smells fishy... it counterdict the behavior of the ISD. |
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Posted - 2015.07.22 11:32:29 -
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The real issue With EVE is that it just suits the pure fighterpilots. I would assume EVE would attract much more players if they had WiS..... and non the least, have planets where People could land on, visit settlements. Have spacewalk as a possibility, which give players ability to enter structures thats not dockable. And EVE's perspective on what "exploring" is, is completely screwed. Let player go inside unkown structures, explore dark strange systems, see strange planets With unknown anaomilies that screwes up ur view on reality and normality.
EVE should been a much more allround game, and i think its strange in their 12-13 year existance, they have narrowed the window to expand and just developed useless skins and AddOns for pvp and pve.... the most borring part of eve. |
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Posted - 2015.12.30 20:11:50 -
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I belive that CCP might begin thinking of making EVE 2.0 and transfer all players assest to the New game... then apply WiS there.
As now, EVE is now a old game....which aint attracting new players in nearly same amount as before. |
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